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04 August 2014 @ 01:02 pm
Guardians of the Galaxy  
Non-spoiler part on top, Spoiler part on bottom

Guardians of the Galaxy is very good. There was a relatively big deal made about the soundtrack ahead of time, and it does but the music to very good use. (Especially in the intro.) It's also rather funny. Maybe not quite to Galaxy Quest levels, but more than once we missed the trailing line in a conversation because the audience was laughing too loud at what had just been said previously.

The plot is fairly general, though it did manage to confound my expectations on a couple points. (And it should be noted that almost nothing that was said/implied in the trailer was actually true. Also the censorship in the trailer was not actually present in the movie... which is kind of sad.)

But because no movie is perfect there were a couple minor nitpicks i had...


So from most trivial to least.

How has a Walkman and a cassette tape continued functioning in perfect order for 26 years of apparently constant use? I expect he's probably had to repair and/or reinforce them somehow using galactic technology, though in that case i'm not sure why he didn't also just make duplicates. (If you know enough to fix it...) But even in that case he might still have been willing to go to great lengths to save the originals just for pure sentimental value.

Did i miss some point where they were actually named the Guardians of the Galaxy? It seemed like all of the sudden the leader started mocking them for having a pretentious name when they hadn't ever actually used that name or anything resembling it. If their name was supposed to be a riff off his original insult then it would have come off more naturally if he'd been less exact in the original statement. "These are the 'heroes' who want to guard the galaxy?" or some such.

And most obviously and glaring of all. Near the end the.. Thrall? Krux? Krawl? Whatever, are doing their suicide bombing mission on the city, and we see civilians trying to run away and a lot of them getting killed. I'm okay with the bad guys killing civilians (wait, that probably doesn't sound right out of context) especially since the good guys rally and have a big damn heroes moment of shooting down the bombers and protecting the civilians.

Then 5-10 minutes later, when the big giant ship is about to crash in the middle of the city, we're told that it's been evacuated. Well okay, i can go along with that. I'll suppose that they had evacuation centers with some magical technology that instantly whisked the panicked civilians away as soon as they arrived.

So then the ship plows through the city, but since it's been evacuated we're saved from a disaster of Star Trek Into Darkness or Man of Steel proportions.

So after it crashes, annihilating the area where it impacts and one has to imagine for dozens or hundreds of meters around it, all of the sudden a bunch of civilians appear out of nowhere to witness the final fight!


We were told the city was evacuated, so they shouldn't have been there to begin with. The big giant ship just crashed on top of them so even if they hadn't evacuated they should have been dead. And even ignoring the first two, why the hell did they run _toward_ the big giant crashed ship that was just trying to kill them and for all they know might still be filled with homicidal aliens?

And it's not like them being present actually served any purpose. They got to hear the Krawl guy monologue and witness the final fight, but it all would have worked out pretty much exactly the same if they hadn't been there at all.
Current Mood: geekygeeky
Chaos Never Blinkssithjawa on August 4th, 2014 08:39 pm (UTC)
Re: the walkman: I had a hard time believing that magnetic media could survive in a high tech world that was not used to magnetic media/concerned with not accidentally wiping it. Never mind the 26 years thing. Wouldn't be surprised if it's been repaired/modified using galactic tech.

Guardians of the Galaxy: I'm glad I'm not the only one. I felt like they maybe decided "We covered this in the trailer, so it doesn't need to be even mentioned in the movie." So confusing.

Idek what's up with the city evacuation stuff. I sort of plugged my ears and went 'lalala' for the final fight since it basically served NO PLOT PURPOSE WHATSOEVER and everything except Ronan was completely unnecessary. I mean Ronan could have expected a better outcome if he'd stowed away in a cargo crate and hitchhiked his way onto the planet and then just started vaporizing his way through civilians until somebody took him seriously.
DonAithnendonaithnen on August 5th, 2014 01:28 am (UTC)
Well in theory all he needed to do was touch the Power Gem to the ground and it would have been all over, no need to start vaporizing his way through civilians.

Of course in that final fight all he needed to do was drop his hammer instead of standing around monologuing and gaping at Starlord and it would have been all over.
Chaos Never Blinkssithjawa on August 5th, 2014 05:19 am (UTC)
Yeah I said that and Will pointed out that his goal was not actually just to destroy the planet, he wanted to spout creepy rants about his religion at it first. So he had to get people to listen to his creepy religious spouting before he could actually poof everything.
Kirinkirinn on August 5th, 2014 03:34 pm (UTC)
Yeah, Ronan is a fairly straightforward villain, but he's not above a bit of theatrics. He doesn't just want to destroy the Nova homeworld, he wants everyone to know exactly why and by whom it was destroyed, especially all the people he's about to kill. If he just smuggled himself in and touched the ground to kill everything that wouldn't satisfy his desire for a Grand Revenge.

(Also, Ronan and the rest of the blue aliens are Kree. Though I don't remember if his particular army of henchmen had another name as well.)

Edited at 2014-08-06 10:33 pm (UTC)
Patriciatrysha on August 4th, 2014 10:58 pm (UTC)
Re, The Name: Thanos was mocking them by being sarcastic. They were this little ragtag bunch of misfits, they weren't anything at all like guardians of the galaxy. It's like walking up to someone who isn't that smart, who is trying something that requires intelligence and saying "Okay Einstein", or going up to a little league team and saying "look at the red sox over there, hahaha". Except, he underestimated them. They took his sarcasm and went HELL YES, THAT ACTUALLY IS US.

Re, tapes. This bothered me as well, so I went and started looking it up. It seems that 1980s and earlier tapes are still prized by a subset of audiophiles. The lifespan of a tape is about 30 years they say. If this tape is a 60 minute tape that was only recorded once, single sided, and not exposed to excessive heat. So yeah, not possible unless he's having the tape regenerated somehow.

Re, civilians: not everyone leaves in a hurricane evacuation. don't overthink it?


Dancing Groot made up for any movie flaws.
DonAithnendonaithnen on August 5th, 2014 01:21 am (UTC)
That makes sense, except in order for those insults to work you already have to know who Einstein or the Red Sox are. Prior to that point in the movie no reference has been made to guarding the galaxy so his comment just seems weird and forced to me.

If they'd ever said in his presence that they were going to save the galaxy from him it would make sense, but i don't remember ever hearing that.

But yes, dancing Groot is awesome, and as i already said it _is_ a good movie. I've had much larger nitpicks about other movies before :)
Patriciatrysha on August 5th, 2014 01:46 am (UTC)
RE: Name.

I think I just gave bad examples.

It's like referring to "the champion of the king" when talking about a squire who is clearly not qualified to even be a knight, let alone the champion of the king.

Up until that point "Guardians of the Galaxy" was not a team name, but just a descriptor of what this team was attempting to do

It would have probably been better for him to refer to these people as "Guardians of Xandar" or even "Champions of Xandar", but that's not the name of the comic book.

A lot of people have complained, so while it may have been the authors intent, it was just poorly executed. :)