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13 October 2004 @ 08:12 pm
The debate  


--------------------------------------Bush Lies (as usual)--------------------------------------------
Okay, big lie from Bush, or possibly just memory issues i suppose. Kerry at the begining:

"Six months after he said Osama bin Laden must be caught dead or alive, this president was asked, "Where is Osama bin Laden?" He said, "I don't know. I don't really think about him very much. I'm not that concerned.""

Bush repsonded: "Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations."

Well take a look at this! That's right, Whitehouse.gov.

"So I don't know where he is. You know, I just don't spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you. I'm more worried about making sure that our soldiers are well-supplied; that the strategy is clear; that the coalition is strong; that when we find enemy bunched up like we did in Shahikot Mountains, that the military has all the support it needs to go in and do the job, which they did."

and later on...

" And, again, I don't know where he is. I -- I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. I was concerned about him, when he had taken over a country. I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban."

Now actually i think what he said is somewhat reasonable. However he made such a big deal earlier about the whole "osama dead or alive" thing, and now he's trying to deny he actually said it.

Of course although the news showed a video clip of him saying that right after the debate, i doubt the story will have much shelf life. The average american doesn't seem to care if Bush tells the truth or not.

--------------------------------------Religion--------------------------------------------
They managed to bring up religion at several points. Kerry at least managed to talk about it without offending me. Bush on the other hand said " If you're a Christian, Jew or Muslim, you're equally an American." although he recovered _slightly_ by immediatly following it with "That's the great thing about America, is the right to worship the way you see fit."

Kerry's response to that: "Everything is a gift from the Almighty. And as I measure the words of the Bible -- and we all do; different people measure different things -- the Koran, the Torah, or, you know, Native Americans who gave me a blessing the other day had their own special sense of connectedness to a higher being. And people all find their ways to express it." ... "And as president, I will always respect everybody's right to practice religion as they choose -- or not to practice -- because that's part of America." A bit garbled, but at least he made an attempt to cover all the bases.

And he also emphasized earlier "What is an article of faith for me is not something that I can legislate on somebody who doesn't share that article of faith."

I wish it wasn't an issue at all, but as long as it's going to get dragged up Kerry handled it a lot better than Bush.

--------------------------------------Jobs and Education--------------------------------------------
Oh, and Kerry talked about raising the mimimum wage to $7 to help poor workers. Bush's response: "But let me talk about what's really important for the worker you're referring to. And that's to make sure the education system works. It's to make sure we raise standards."

And earlier they were asked what they would say to an individual who has lost his job, and Bush said "I'd say, Bob, I've got policies to continue to grow our economy and create the jobs of the 21st century. And here's some help for you to go get an education. Here's some help for you to go to a community college. We've expanded trade adjustment assistance. We want to help pay for you to gain the skills necessary to fill the jobs of the 21st century."

Yeah, unemployed people and people working at minimum wage are _so_ much more concerned with going back to school than they are about getting a job/raise. They're really going to love you Bush.


I'll have to go back over the transcript and see what else stands out. Here's a transcript i found if anyone else wants to take a look.
 
 
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