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01 October 2004 @ 10:09 am
More Presidential Debate stuff  
Akiko linked a great article/commentar about the debate from Plastic. I will quote the wonderful (and in my opinion highly accurate) "transcription" below.

One of my favorite bits that it reminded me of was (and obviously paraphrasing a bit)

Kerry: "We need a president who knows how to pull our allies together. This president hasn't even held the statesmen-like summits that pull people together."
Bush: "Well Japan is going to have a summit. And there's going to be an Arab summit, Collin Powel helped with that one." (perhaps Collin Powel should be the president then?)
Kerry: "When we went in there were three countries: Great Britain, Australia and the United States. That's not a grand coalition. We can do better."
Bush: (with a stupid "ha, ha, i caught you" tone of voice) "Well, actually, he forgot Poland."

However even better was:

Kerry asks if Saddam is more important than bin Laden sicne we've got so many more troops in Iraq than Afghanistan.
The organizer guy (direct quote:) "What about Senator Kerry's point, the comparison he drew between the priorities of going after Osama bin Laden and going after Saddam Hussein?"
Bush (direct quote:) "Jim, we've got the capability of doing both.
...(about 15 seconds of rambling)...
Of course we're after Saddam Hussein -- I mean bin Laden."

But anyways, the "transcript" from Plastic:


"135. Transcripts, sumarized.
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in reply to comment 4

LEHRER: Who could best prevent another 9/11?
KERRY: That would be me. Why? My ideas are just plain better.
BUSH: September 11! Al Qaeda! Terrorism! Taliban! Iraq! Saddam! Freeeeeedom! Wait, what was the question?

LEHRER: Well, would a Kerry win increase the risk of terror?
BUSH: No, because he's not going to win. Excuse me while I throw out some patriotic buzzwords.
KERRY: I can kill terrorists too, you know. Plus, I'm not a moron.

LEHRER: Okay, what 'misjudgements' has Bush made?
KERRY: Gee, where to start. Here's the big fuck-off list I made.
BUSH: Hey, you once said this war was a good idea too! And anyway, we're much safer without Saddam around.

LEHRER: So, Osama or Saddam?
BUSH: We can take down both! But Iraq is obviously central to the war on terror. That's why people are fighting there, duh.
KERRY: What the fuck? Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism! And now its a fucking mess!
BUSH: Well, what kinda message does that "wrong war/place/time" thing send? We need resolve!
KERRY: Yeah, but we also need credibility.

LEHRER: What about homeland security, then?
KERRY: Invest in homeland security! Stop cutting costs! Protect vulnerable targets! More firemen! Secure loose nuclear shit!
BUSH: Offence is the best defence! Attack Iraq! Raar!!

LEHRER: And when do the troops come home?
BUSH: When Iraqi people learn to take care of themselves!
KERRY: We'll call in some help, and they can all go home sooner.
BUSH: You don't believe in this war! You voted against military spending, Mr. "Wrong war/place/time." You'd be a terrible leader!
KERRY: Okay, so I screwed up on that vote. You screwed up this war.

LEHRER: Are Americans now dying in Iraq for a mistake?
KERRY: No. But there'd be a whole lot less of 'em dying if Bush hadn't alienated all our friends.
BUSH: Hey, we had a couple of allies! And besides, I know how these people think! They sure as hell won't join you, Mr. "Wrong war/place/time!"
KERRY: Your 'grand coalition' was a whole two other countries.
BUSH: You forgot about Poland. Anyway, as long as I'm in charge we're unstoppable!

LEHRER: What was the 'miscalculation' in Iraq?
BUSH: I didn't say a miscalculation. I said that those damn loyalists didn't want to face our massive armoured columns and die out in the desert, and now all those unsporting bastards are hanging around the cities causing trouble.
KERRY: And that wasn't a miscalculation how?

LEHRER: When has Bush misled the public?
KERRY: Well, I wouldn't say he lied. He just hasn't been candid. But here's the list I made up...
BUSH: OSAMA BIN LADEN! Ahem. I mean... Well, uh, I think you're pretty damn misleading yourself!
KERRY: Bullshit.
BUSH: You're inconsistent. Inconsistency won't win this war!

LEHRER: Has the war been worth the loss of life?
BUSH: Every life is precious. But it was worth it!
KERRY: It may be worth it, but your plan sucks. Mine is better.
BUSH: Is that so, Mr. "Wrong war/place/time?" You can't win jack shit.
KERRY: I beg to differ.

LEHRER: So when will the war in Iraq end?
KERRY: A lot sooner if I'm in charge.
BUSH: Wrong! It ends when the Iraqi people are free!
KERRY: You keep doing it all wrong. I've got a better plan.
BUSH: Stop hating freedom. I'm gonna win this thing."
 
 
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Sister Atom Bomb of Courteous Debateakiko on October 1st, 2004 10:46 am (UTC)
The real version of this part -- I said that those damn loyalists didn't want to face our massive armoured columns and die out in the desert, and now all those unsporting bastards are hanging around the cities causing trouble. -- had Ben laughing out loud. The war was such a problem because we didn't kill enough people outright. Yup.

I think the "I can kill terrorists, too. Plus, I'm not a moron" part would be a great icon. *scour scour*
Usquebausqueba on October 1st, 2004 11:43 pm (UTC)
Bush: "Well Japan is going to have a summit. And there's going to be an Arab summit, Collin Powel helped with that one."

Yeah, well NOW there's gonna be some summits. Kinda like starting birth control AFTER you're pregnant.

Bush: (with a stupid "ha, ha, i caught you" tone of voice) "Well, actually, he forgot Poland."

I was thinking, "Oh he forgot *Poland* and what... all 10 or their army people?" (sorry Poland; we just didn't hear a lot about you guys).
DonAithnendonaithnen on October 3rd, 2004 02:24 pm (UTC)
There are going to be summits, but Bush isn't the one holding them! Kerry accused Bush of not showing leadership since he wasn't out there trying to arrange summits on Iraq. Responding "Well other people are doing summits so i don't have to do anything" is _not_ showing strong leadership.