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06 March 2012 @ 12:44 pm
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So i guess today is the big day for the republican nomination?

The last time i checked the primaries (which admittedly wasn't all that recently) Romney and Santorum were neck and neck, with Ron Paul in a somewhat distant third. (I think Gingrinch was doing well for a bit, but then fell off again?)

So at this point it's still plausible that any of them could pick up the nomination. So in the worst case scenario of a Republican becoming president, if they caught Obama kicking a dog on live TV or something, who would you prefer? Romeny, Paul, or ...okay, who am i kidding? Romney or Paul?

On the face of it, i think i would prefer Romney. If he was elected and got everything he wanted he'd definitely set the country back a bit, but in another four or eight years we'd get someone else and hopefully we'd recover. On the other hand if Paul was elected and got everything he wanted... i'm really not sure where the country would be four years later, but i think it would take a looooong time to recover from it.

However presidents almost never get everything they want. In fact they rarely get most of what they want. They have to negotiate with congress to come up with deals that are at least somewhat acceptable to everyone. I don't think Paul could manage to convince congress to completely eliminate taxes, or switch us to a gold standard, or any of his other crazier notions. However there is a _small_ chance he could actually make some progress (or at least halt the decay) on getting us some freedoms back. Romney on the other hand would ask for much more mundane set of bad things, and thus would be much more likely to get a significant amount of what he wanted.

Of course i'd take Obama over either one of them (despite the number of things Obama has disappointed me on) but it might be interesting to see what happened to the debate if Paul was running against Obama. Would Obama try to distinguish himself from Paul by going more liberal on economic issues or more conservative on social issues? (It might be interesting to watch heads asplode as Obama promises to crack down even more on marijuana just to counter Paul.) Or would he try to co-opt some of Paul's more sane ideas so that the remaining distinguishing features would be his loony ideas?

In any case though i know a Ron Paul victory in the primaries is pretty unlikely. And Santorum would _probably_ be even less likely to win against Obama than Romney, but the idea of him getting even just the nomination is kind of abhorrent. So i guess i hope Romney wins? Yay? =P

(And yes, i know that Ron Paul is a racist dick, but really i have trouble believing that there are any white middle class religious conservative Republican who _aren't_ racists dicks. Maybe that's just my own stereotyping problem though.)
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Steuardsteuard on March 6th, 2012 11:15 pm (UTC)
Ron Paul may sometimes come in third in a given poll, but he's really not at all third place in the nomination fight as far as I can tell. I don't recall him ever having been the frontrunner, and I think that he's largely failed to connect with either the Republican mainstream or the die-hard religious right. Only the libertarian-leaning folks take him seriously, and there aren't remotely enough of them to swing the nomination.

So it's down to Romney or a crazy person. Given that Obama will lose if unemployment nudges up much at all over the summer or the economy otherwise sputters, I'd really rather have Romney be the Republican we'd be stuck with if it came to that.
Beth Leonardbeth_leonard on March 7th, 2012 06:13 am (UTC)
Yeah, I'd rather Romney than Santorum by a long shot. I'm not sure about Paul -- I don't think he's got a chance, so I don't think it would matter, but his recommended economic policies most closely match mine of any candidate, but his position on foreign isolationism is even worse than Obamas, to the degree that it may even overshadow what good he may accomplish economically.

I have a strong preference for Romney over Gingrich and over Obama. Between Gingrich and Obama, I'd puke, then close my eyes and point. Probably Gingrich, given that I'm a CA voter and it just wouldn't matter, but ick. I hope not.

--Beth
Steuardsteuard on March 7th, 2012 11:16 am (UTC)
Yeah, I don't seriously expect that Gingrich is coming back, either. (He won his home state! Yay?) I still think he's more likely to get the nod than Ron Paul, but every sense I get is that he's already had his moment in this race.
DonAithnendonaithnen on March 12th, 2012 12:07 am (UTC)
While that's certainly true, it doesn't answer at all which you'd prefer to have in the white house if you had to choose the lesser of the greater evils :)
Melissa Bthumbie on March 8th, 2012 10:44 pm (UTC)
Even if they caught Obama kicking the dog on live TV, it would at worst put him even with Romney's "Doggergate" scandal, and at best be a relevant example for TvTropes under "real life examples."
DonAithnendonaithnen on March 12th, 2012 12:08 am (UTC)
Huh, i hadn't heard about that one before, but like i said, i haven't been paying that much attention to the republican nominations.